Details:

When? - Sunday, June 18th, 2006.
Time? - 1pm - whenever
Raindate? - Sunday, June 25th, 2006.
Where? - Valley Forge National Park, Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.
Directions? - Look here: http://www.valley-forge-park.com/
Rules? - EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING A FOOD OR DRINK ITEM TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE! For those of you that bring nothing, and eat anyway...you're basically stealing from the other people that brought food/drinks. We also need condiments, silverware, plates, and napkins. There will be no physical or verbal abuse permitted. If you do start an arguement, you will promptly be asked to leave...otherwise, authorities will be contacted.

Lawn chairs are advised to bring along! Unless you don't mind sitting on the ground.

I will be posting this up on other car forums...you all are more than welcome to do the same. This BBQ is for all car enthusiasts.

People:

1.) AlyssaC - Mazda6 - 2 packs of hot dogs plus 2 packs of hot dog rolls.
2.) chidoks - Supra or Lex? - food?
3.) michaelvanle - Supra - food?
4.) hockyplyer18 - Supra - food?
5.) slow95tt - Supra - food?
6.) Mike - 350Z - hot dogs and burgers
7.) Jose Feliciano - RX7 - food?
8.) redlineracer - RX7 - food?
9.) Pats300zx - 300ZX - food?
10.) mr2000gt - MR2 - food?
11.) Beef - SER-V - hot dogs and chips
12.) Vader007 - 350Z - maybe
13.) imjdoggie - 350Z - food?
14.) SJ - Supra? - food?
15.) hockyplyer'sbro - Cobra - food?
16.) shogunsup94 - Xterra or Ducati - grill
17.) Anthracite93 - Supra - ketchup, mustard, and cups.
18.) Anthracite'sfriend - 350Z - food?
19.) SwapedCelica - Celica - food?
20.) Nick 95 6sp - Supra - food?
21.) overb00sted - supra/WRX - food?
22.) 89DC240 - 240sx - 2 bottles of soda
23.) US R33 - S13 coupe - 12 pack paper towels
24.) nj94supratt - Supra - brownies, eggplant pepper dip & pita chips
25.) scrub - RX7 - food?
26.) nyARISTO - Lexus - hot dog and burger buns
27.) T88Supra - MR2 - sodas
28.) PhArNhYtE - MR2 - case of bottled water
29.) Dave - Audi TT - food?
30.) Nick - Eclipse GST - food?
31.) Kyle - SRT4 - food?
32.) Megan - Civic SI - plates
33.) Chris - Tiburon GT - munchies
34.) Moosevision1 - Supra - food/drinks?
35.) Olmytsi - Talon - buns
36.) CleanNeon98 - Neon - plates/cups/silverware
37.) TalonTsi97 - Talon - maybe

 

too bad I'm across the atlantic.

 

Fly over!

 

I just came off a 24 day vacation, remember. (And spent over 4 grand, shipped the Benz, Got a restoration deal for the BMW, and looking for either a CL500, 750iL, 1995-1999 S600, 1994-1995 E500, or SL500, or 1995-1999 pre-Ford XJ12, one of them with a plot of land on the side.)

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Ford bought Jaguar in 1989.

 

Yeah but they didn't really start to screw em over until pretty recently. Trust me, I'm not too quic kabout rushing to go out and buy one. If Ford wouldn't have bought them, there would be no debate or question, I would have a XJ12 next to the Benz no questions asked, but it all depends on how extensive have Ford messed with Jaguar. Just as BMW owned Roll-Royce (at least the rights to the emblem) for a while now, but left them almost as it was until the Phantom. Just as Chrystler didn't see Benz parts until a few years after. Now some their cars are half Benzes. What I mean is that I'm looking for a Jaguar that looks, and feels like a Jaguar. Unlike the X-type that feels more Volvo than anything. Or the S-Type, nice looking car but it rides, feels, and even smells like a small Lincoln such as the LS. And they are starting to tinker with the XJ more and more to the point that it's no longer a Jaguar, just a Ford with cat symbols on it.

So far here is the order, with the land on the side. And I would enjoy any experiences with any of the Benzes and or other cars on this list from anyone. Especially the 1994-1995 E500 (pre-Frog eyes.), there seem to be little info about em I guess because of the rarity.

750iL
E500
S600
CL500
XJ12
SL500

 

What do u want to know about the 500E. Cause here i assume u already know that they were made in colaberation with Porsche.
I was searching websites earlier today and saw one for sale when i find it again i will post the link for u man.

 

The true specs to start off with. And screw that 0-60 mph thing, who cares. I want 0-100 mph numbers. Something that matters. I want to know how does it rides in compare to something like the regular E420/E320s of them 1994-1995 years. And of course the trouble spots, if it has any. And if the car is not near the Atlanta, GA, Memphis TN or Austin, TX area, then it's useless. I never buy a car with going to see it in person and driving it.

Yeah I know it was colaberation with Porsche. That what's makes this car so intriguing.

 

Well here is a start http://www.mercedesshop.com/500e.htm. The car that i saw online was located in CA so i guess its no good to u. I have an orginal test on them from when they first came out but i have no idea where that magazine is at packed away in a box somewhere i presume. Kinda funny though how i saw one forsale then i see that ur looking to get one though. Also as far as the older pre-ford jaguars go they started messing with them the most in 1995 when the newer body style came out and from what i have heard ford buying them is the best possible thing that could have happened to them because jaguars from the early 80s till the 95's are known to have tons of problems this comes from the people i know that are experts on 1970s, 1980s and 90s european cars. I would guess u have heard all the British car wiring jokes but they are only funny because they are true.

 

Ah and you see why I want a 1995-1999 Jaguar. They solved most of reliablity problems. Now with that solved, the question is what have they done to Jaguar prestige recently? I don't want a luxury car that says Jaguar but feels like the Volvo or god forbid a Five Hundred or some other low totem pole Ford product. Just as when I buy a Mercedes, I expect it to feel act, look and ride and perform like a Mercedes, not a Chrysler. Just as when I drive a Cadillac, I don't want to feel too much Chevy in it. Or Cadillac would be useless and might as well save ten or fifteen thousand and buy a Chevy with change left over. (R.I.P. 1995/1996 Cadillac Fleetwood.)