Well said! But who knows, had there been a draft when we first went into Afghanistan, more middle and upper middle class families would have had a stake in events in the Middle East. Maybe we would have gone in, actually hunted down the bin Laden, the Bush family business partner, and came home....
As you are probably well aware of, right now, the US Army has ten divisions but needs a minimum of 12 divisions in order to meet the needs of many possible world events. If Bush isn't once again lying, and he does indeed intend to "double down" and rapidly increase the troop strength iin Iraq and "move forward" what ever the hell that means.... he'll need at minimum, 2 more divisions.... and hey, I don't see young people beating at the recruitment office doors....

 

The number one reasons I hear that young people or people in general are not knocking on the recruit door is because they either don't really understand what this war is all about, they are against it, or they feel it is more of a personal thing about a rich guy trying to get oil at the expense of human lives. And the media isn't really helping the war cause either.

Now if the draft was instated in the beginning, yeah, I think things would get done alot faster, assuming that there would've benn no way for the rich and upper middle class people to pay thier way or kids way out of it like leaving the brunt of the draft on people who can't afford to pay off the right people. That's where problems come in.

As far divisions, they are so far planning on shifting personnel and stuff to create that two divisions. Many army jobs (especially the garrison ones) are being turned into civilian jobs so that it can free up the soldiers for those two divisions. It's not final, but I so far it's looking like they are seriously considering going that road before they do the draft.

 

And I don't think they even thought we needed a draft in the beginning. I don't think they thought we even needed this many troops or time in the beginning since we did easily drive them out of Kuwait in 1991. But they failed to realized driving someone out of a country that isn't theirs and fighting in their backyad, home turf is a totally different monster and that's where heavy diplomatic skills come in handy. Sure we are killing the bad guys but we are also killing innocent people caught in the cross fire. I don't blame them for being out raged, the people that is (not the enemy). I know they don't do it on purpose but when an innocent child or elders civilans get killed by us, it don't help the situations and the enemy uses that as a springboard to fuel thier purpose and gain more people to fight against the evil that shoots, burns, rape civilians or abuse the prisoners. I know only a select few does this but that select few regardless of all the good things we do over there is damaging our cause. And of course even our own media rarely put good news on tv about the good things the troops do while down there. I guess it is not good for ratings. If everytime you turn on the tv you see or hear someone get blowed to bits, a soldier murders a Iraq family, a band of soldiers blow up a mosque killing everyone inside, scandal scandal scandal, of course people are not lining up at the door. I'm not saying lie yo people but I say show the whole truth. There are plenty of injured that come through this station that are iching to go back because they felt they are making a huge diffrence in the right way, and some of them don't believe in the whole war, but they believe in the good things they do are making a difference.
What a fine mess we got ourselves into though, but then again, what war isn't a mess.

 

i like this...it's very true.

at the end of the day, USA will remain to be the big demolition team of them all.

threats from iran and north korea to nuke USA will of course turn them into a glass factory .

they just hope that nuke can create diamonds too so in that case, they can benefit from it

 

I don't think we should be going around nuking people, however, the middle east would be the right place. They've been killing eachother for thousands of years and terrorizing. No one else does that. Everyone else has some sense and doesn't have the idea that God wants everyone murdered on mind. China will change in time because they're allowing trade into their counrty...which will lead to a free market. People will realize what's out there or either their government will collapse on itself.

 

OK, my thoughts.

A draft would create a fighting force high in volume and low in moral, like it always has. If we let Iraq sink, we lose. We lose our ability to be trusted by any country that may need our help (eg. Great Brittian [sm=alcoholic.gif],Israel, France , Germany, South Korea[:'(]). We also give OPEC even more leverage over the worlds oil supply.

Why is Afghanistan STILL the largest producer of Heroin? Because a drugged population is a quiet one and there is money to be made by corrupt governments, like ours.

The USA should have had the ***** to do what will really work to prevent most foreign terrorism here in the first place. After 09/11/01 ALL persons within it's borders should have been required to show cause for their presence or citizenship, then issued a national ID card. No exceptions. The battle cry could have been "Round 'um up and sort 'um out!". All local governments should have been forced to enforce federal immigration laws. No exceptions. The feds could hold back funding as a caret. The congress should have declared war on a "defined idealism" and authorized the military to accomplish a defined mission. American Muslims should have stood up and be counted as "on America's side".

The government is too timid and the folks too sensitive. Rather, we have surveillance and general spying like a modern day Gestapo. Look at England. CCTV on every corner watching for littering. Is that where we are going? Is that Liberty? Is that what we are fighting for over seas?

 

I say the group of us should meat sit down and come up with a party platform and run in the next major election we seem to embody what the US rreally stands for and though we may disagree on a few smaller things overall i think we could do a better job than Dems or GOP.

 

Most people know what needs to be done, the government is not listening because they don't have too. ALTHOUGH....

I think the Rep's getting the boot may become a trend. " Throw ALL the bums out". Most Conservative issues across the country PASSED during the midterm election, it's the idiot do nothing members of congress that were shown the door. Good riddance!

If congress continues to waste money, tax us just for prestige, and ignore what is really wrong with our immigration law enforcement, the Dem's may just get the boot too. The next election will say a lot. The Rep's are throwing the president under the bus and will probably act like Dem's for the next ten years. Hold on to your wallet in the mean time.

The Dem's are proposing punishing the oil companies for making money. They have to know this will increase the price of fuel for everyone. What is really going on? The folks will boot them out for being stupid, if my theory is correct.

 

I tend to agree. But then most of the USA is ignorant regarding why we invaded... Geeeez, over 50% sitill believe that Sadam Hussein was tied to Al Queta! Most also still believe he had weapons of mass distruction! If one wants to actually get the facts, then one must read the foriegn press....

Here I disagree... In fact, that's a favorite statement of "Faux" News....which will go to any extreme, tell any lie on behalf of Bush and his viscious band of neo nuts. For instance, The Baker led panel on Iraq solutions recently exposed the fact that Bush and company have been deliberately under reporting Iraqi casualties...So who know how many people have died or been wounded there, and that includes US military. Had the corporate media actually been doing its job, they would have dug up that little tidbit and exposed Bush and his gd'ed gangster for the war profiteering rats they are.

I tend to agree. The ultra rich, especially the ultra rich who are also connect to the Bush crime family don't answer to the same laws as the rest of us.

Hiriing civilians to sub for the US military has not only been a complete failure... but I strongly suspect, if ever truly investigated we'll find that not only have the corporations hired to do the jobs been stealing from us, many high ranking officers and politicians have also gotten very fat off the money of we the people. If the present new Democratic power structure allows that to continue... then I strongly suspect we are witnessing the fall of the USA as a major world player...

 

I tend to agree.