You've got it backward.
With private Enterprise efficiency, the mass-transit subsidies alone would make huge profits.
Meaning the ride for the passengers might be free and even with free coffee and donuts.

Patrick no matter how biased we can be, only idiots have luxury of denying facts, that are easy to verify.
Than we have Lugnut, that in Tire sizes topic denied existence of rpm in tire technical data about 5 times.
Than he admitted seeing it and then denied it existence again.

 

Correct!

 

This is one-dimensional thought. Woefully uninformed. Kajtek1 is totally wrong, as usual, and doesn't understand how governments outsource projects. If life and governments only worked as simply as his little mind...

Kajtek1 died in that thread. Michelin and I killed him. Not surpisingly, he ignored the pertinent parts of the conversation because it didn't agree with his viewpoint, again. Now he's back in his pretend world and up to his usual tricks. What he just said is a complete and utter lie that he just made up. He's one of the most persistent liars I've ever run across. This is just a desperate yet pitiful attempt at remaining relevant. He's the only one who exploits the luxury of denying the facts.

 

Only in your sick dreams.

 

Warning, Will Robinson. Kajtek1 is about to spout some more approved stupidity.

Suffice it to say that his economic thought process is geared toward socialism and facsim. Just because someone (as in a government official) stands up and says something, it doesn't make it so. You can find claims of savings for privatizing mass transit all over the place, but that doesn't mean the implication is true--that there is an overall savings. The claims are easily debunked. Look for a GAO or Price Waterhouse audit. They agree there are particular areas of savings, but not for entire projects.

As an example, Kajtek1 has no idea of the following and will ignore it because it decimates his position. Wait and watch as he totally ignores this. It blows his theory right out of the water. He'll have to say something disparaging about me or how I presented these facts to try to misdirect everyone's attention away from these plain and simple truths. Facts that he will ignore. BTW, this info was taken from one of Kajtek1's favorite sources, The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank that actually supports government outsourcing and privatization.

If we can't compare rails to buses accurately because costing data are unavailable, how can we compare them to proposed private industry costs and then claim there would be savings?? Kajtek1 will seem to perform some magic here by pulling some BS number out of his behind, like a private company can do the same job for 75% of the current cost and make a huge profit and give away doughnuts to passengers. His huge mistake here is the assumption that a private company would get whatever the government spends now. That's not how competitive bidding works.

Well, okay. How about letting a private company bid on construction work for mass transit? That's okay, if you want to pay more than if the government did it.

So, you may ask yourself, "Why does it cost more for a private company to do government's job?" The answer is two-fold. The outsourcing contract has to be managed and monitored. It's never included in those so-called savings claims. There are entire organizations created to manage and monitor each and every federal government contract type, and subordinate organizations created underneath to manage and monitor daily issues on sometimes just single contracts when they're large ones. Furthermore, an employee covered under federal job protections can't just be fired. They also get top pay for their work. The employees who did the work usually end up in the managing and monitoring positions because of their knowledge base. Essentially, you keep paying all the previous government employees plus now they pay a private company to do the work.

Simple-minded people wearing blinders can't see these facts and often don't understand them. Kajtek1 is one of those people. As I said, he will choose to ignore all these facts or do a double-talking dance around them. That's what he does best. Obviously, he hasn't heard of the $12,000 toilet, although he is a toilet expert.

I gonna stop before I write a book.