Keyless-Go
I just purchased a 2003 SL-500 (with only 21K miles). It is a great car and I am already in love with it. I do have a wild question for the open group. My wife has a 2006 CLS500 with the KeylessGo. The system on her car is part of the Key-Fob (i.e. the FOB has the normal remote functions - but also has the KeylessGo logic internally). On my SL500 the Keyless Go is a separate "Smart Card" - there is also a FOB - but it only does the remote fuctions. I was wondering if one could purchase a newer/integrated KeylessGo FOB (like my wife's) and program it to work with the older systems - like what is in my 2003 SL-500.
Any thoughts or comments. The dealership does not even want to "discuss" this - but I think it would be interesting. :) |
RE: Keyless-Go
you can't. your model must be 2002 and not 2003.
earlier than 2003 uses keyless-go transmitter card only while the later uses the key with integrated transponder. |
RE: Keyless-Go
OK a bit confused by the response. I have a 2003 - it has the SmartCard - Not certain when it changed to the integrated key design (at least by 2006). However from the 5000 foot view - the general logic is still the same - a command/response from the car to the Keyless unit (this general methodology is independent of whether it is the SmartCard or the SmartKey design - IMHO). So unless there is something radically different in the query/response strings - I would still think that it is a "programming" thing.
So let me ask the question differently - does anyone know "why" the SmartKey could not be "programmed" into a SmartCard based system? Is there something different in the query/response codes - or different frequencies - or ????. The dealership will not "explain" why they won't entertain the idea (kinda like your Mom telling you not to do something - just because she says so :D) Anyway given my engineering background - I am trying to learn WHY or WHY NOT. Thanks |
RE: Keyless-Go
"why" the SmartKey could not be "programmed" into a SmartCard based system? you got 5 key line with 8 rails. it means that you can have as much as 40 keys at the same time. line 4 and 5 is reserved as card key, but i can as well reprogram it to line 1 or 2 on different track or rail. on newer model, the single key occupies the same track line and considered as one. what's your VIN anyway? can please tell me so i can confirm? |
RE: Keyless-Go
Sleepwalker,
OK so would it be possible to program the All-In-One FOB into two different pathes (example - Line 1 for the FOB and also in Line 4 for the SmartCard)? Is there somewhere I can read about this logic and how it plays? Is there a program or tool I can get to "play" with my car (I take responsibility that if I break it I have to pay ;)). As to VIN WDBSK75F43F025119 |
RE: Keyless-Go
it's 2002 model.
my server is down now. later i will feed you some information about it... but you must share with me your findings. maybe we can make something out of it. VIN WDBSK75F43F025119 Plant 67 Model SL 500 Chassis 2304751F025119 Engine 113963 30 411628 Transmission 722633 03 793820 Tyres Primary MICHELIN Order 0 3 704 43913 Lights BOSCH Delivery date 11.07.02 Dealer United States (USA) (704) Interior leather mushroom / quartz / pebble (205) Paint 946 teal blue metallic Options M50 5L engine U27 Unknown code U44 Unknown code 220 parking aid (с 01.10.1993) 232 Unknown code 264 shifting gate for automatic transmission (с 01.01.1996) 284 trunk set, 5-piece wood selector lever shift lever in wood/leather combination (с 01.01.1990) 289 wooden/leather steering wheel (dia. 390 mm) wood-/leather steering wheel (ш 390mm) and leather gearshift (с 01.02.1993) multiple contour backrest for right rear single seat 349 non delivery - side blinkers provision for emergency call system "e-call" (с 26.01.1998) 352 operation and monitoring system comand (navigation + radio/cassette) (с 01.09.1996) 401 comfort front seats with ventilation and seat heaters (с 01.01.1996) 404 left front seat with multiple contour backrest (с 01.01.1996) 405 right front seat with multiple contour backrest (с 01.01.1996) 423 5 speed automatic transmission / nag (с 01.03.1994) 461 instrument with mileage reading and english lettering (с 01.04.1990) 475 tire pressure control (с 01.10.1996) 487 abc suspension (active body control) (с 01.01.1996) 494 California version version for USA/California/Canada (с 01.01.1996) 524 paintcoat preservation (с 01.01.1964) 614 lamp unit, asymmetrical, l.h. traffic, with amber lenses 634 elimination of first aid box (с 01.08.1977) 636 elimination of warning triangle (с 01.03.1973) 668 669 spare wheel (с 01.06.1995) spare wheel (R170) 673 high-capacity battery (с 01.01.1964) 733 wood trim, chestnut light (с 01.06.1997) 772 amg styling package - front spoiler, side skirts and rear apron (с 02.01.1992) 790 7 x 15 ET35 205/55, 1-piece (с 01.01.1992) 803 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year 810 loudspeaker, sound package sound package (bose) (с 01.12.1986) 819 CD changer - alpine - in trunk (с 31.07.1992) 875 heated screen wash system (с 01.02.1988) windshield washer heated (W201) 889 Keyless-GO (с 01.01.1996) 986 identification plate (vin no.) (с 01.07.1992) 989 identification label under windshield (с 01.10.1997) |
Replacement Smart Card
This is off the subject somewhat but does anyone have a source for a replacement smart(proximity) card .... the dealer cost is ridiculous.... i have a 2003 S500 .... thanx
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