'01 W210 Starter Mystery, Mk. II
Initial starting issue resolved by replacing bad fuse in ECU box, operated as designed for bit.
New starting issue is starter begins to engage but then stops, barely turning the engine. If the key is held in the 'start' position the starter will repeatedly and quite regularly (every 3-5 sec?) try to engage again.
The new battery exhibits 1100CCA at 12.8V and jumping the connections under the relay in the ECU box causes the starter to spin the engine enthusiastically. 'Jumping' with long trucker jumper-cables from the battery to engine compartment changes nothing. It's not the battery or connections.
There are no codes and every fuse I've been able to find on the car is OK.
I've swapped the relay in the ECU box with another, same symptoms.
I feel as though I've been beset by malicious fairies, so much for a holiday weekend! I've searched and haven't found anything like this, any thoughts???
UPDATE: Tried lubricating the ringgear per suggestions and service bulletin but no success. There is also another symptom, it seems there is a one second delay between when the key is turned to the 'start' position and the beginning of the start cycle...
New starting issue is starter begins to engage but then stops, barely turning the engine. If the key is held in the 'start' position the starter will repeatedly and quite regularly (every 3-5 sec?) try to engage again.
The new battery exhibits 1100CCA at 12.8V and jumping the connections under the relay in the ECU box causes the starter to spin the engine enthusiastically. 'Jumping' with long trucker jumper-cables from the battery to engine compartment changes nothing. It's not the battery or connections.
There are no codes and every fuse I've been able to find on the car is OK.
I've swapped the relay in the ECU box with another, same symptoms.
I feel as though I've been beset by malicious fairies, so much for a holiday weekend! I've searched and haven't found anything like this, any thoughts???
UPDATE: Tried lubricating the ringgear per suggestions and service bulletin but no success. There is also another symptom, it seems there is a one second delay between when the key is turned to the 'start' position and the beginning of the start cycle...
Last edited by abh3; Sep 7, 2010 at 09:42 AM. Reason: update testing
Looks like the K40 relay is the issue. Took it the bottom cover off and there was a burned electrical odor and examining the bottom revealed several discolored solder connections. On the board itself are at least two bad (cracked) resistors. Parts will be in tomorrow...
UPDATE: New K40 module has it on the road again. It seems obvious now with the blown fuse and then mysterious electrical symptoms, maybe this will help others with the same issues...
UPDATE: New K40 module has it on the road again. It seems obvious now with the blown fuse and then mysterious electrical symptoms, maybe this will help others with the same issues...
Last edited by abh3; Sep 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM.
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