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Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4
Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles: BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.
Copyrighted, CNNMoney. All Rights Reserved.[/align][/align][/align]Besides the Lexus, the rest of things on that list I have never even heard of or even have a deep enough history to insuate that the car will last that long. Maybe some civics, the old ones, but usually is nothing more than a beater that won't die since it crossed the 120,000 mile mark. And the Land Cruiser been around for a while but seen more F-150s with much higher miles than the landcruiser. Usually they rust out beyond reconition before getting anywhere near the 200,000 mark. [/align][/align]And the 7 series, are they talking about the E23, E32 or E38 or the E"60" something series? Each of them have ups and down. Most experts say the E23 was the most durable 7 and also most simplest and you can find oodles of them with over 200,000 or close in good condition. Same with many older MBZs and none made the list? Who the hell are these Euro car hating people? They must be paid by teh Japs. [/align][/align]I'll take a bet now that the Honda element will not regulary see 200K miles nor that Prius. They are already having problems with some of the "older" Prius ones batteries and no one qualified to fix them and they put it on the list of lasting 200,000? Are they serious? [/align]Taking bets. Someone please make me rich.[/align]
Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles: BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.
Copyrighted, CNNMoney. All Rights Reserved.[/align][/align][/align]Besides the Lexus, the rest of things on that list I have never even heard of or even have a deep enough history to insuate that the car will last that long. Maybe some civics, the old ones, but usually is nothing more than a beater that won't die since it crossed the 120,000 mile mark. And the Land Cruiser been around for a while but seen more F-150s with much higher miles than the landcruiser. Usually they rust out beyond reconition before getting anywhere near the 200,000 mark. [/align][/align]And the 7 series, are they talking about the E23, E32 or E38 or the E"60" something series? Each of them have ups and down. Most experts say the E23 was the most durable 7 and also most simplest and you can find oodles of them with over 200,000 or close in good condition. Same with many older MBZs and none made the list? Who the hell are these Euro car hating people? They must be paid by teh Japs. [/align][/align]I'll take a bet now that the Honda element will not regulary see 200K miles nor that Prius. They are already having problems with some of the "older" Prius ones batteries and no one qualified to fix them and they put it on the list of lasting 200,000? Are they serious? [/align]Taking bets. Someone please make me rich.[/align]
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I can't believe that a civic will make 200,000 my friend has a one year old civic cdti and hes just had to have the brakes and disc replaced as they wear so quick he's only done 20,000 miles.
If the civic will make 200,000 then its about £1000 every 20,000 for discs and pads not a cheap car to own for that amount of mileage.
If the civic will make 200,000 then its about £1000 every 20,000 for discs and pads not a cheap car to own for that amount of mileage.
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I am beginning to suspect that Consumer Reports is a subsidiary of Japan's motor industry... Every one of the "good bets" was Japanese, while only the Nissan made the "bad bet" list from Japan. I never trust them anyway. Large corporation with potential gain from telling people what cars to buy...
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I think they are basing this on the 2007 or 2008 modelseveryone knows honda and toyota run forever with just general maintainence. That said we all know older german cars run forever but we also know what problems BMW and Mercedes washaving from 00-04. That said i saw two 2008 C300s today OMG i love them! One was white the other was black.
oh and for those who know me the 560SEL has sold guy came and looked at it battery was dead and said if it runs as good as it looks then consider it sold so he's picking it up this week. Kinda sad since this is the first time i will not have a Mercedes since i have been driving bitter sweet i guess.
oh and for those who know me the 560SEL has sold guy came and looked at it battery was dead and said if it runs as good as it looks then consider it sold so he's picking it up this week. Kinda sad since this is the first time i will not have a Mercedes since i have been driving bitter sweet i guess.
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Ah yes, that is right , AMG. It was some kind of nickel-"something" alloy lining the cylinder block that deteriorated too fast. It only happened in the early 1995 cars when the new E38 came outand was corrected near the Aug time perios of that year and the 1996 had the newer better lining. The others was supposedly repaired for free in 1995 and most that had the "bad" lining had been corrected.
And if they are basing it on 2007-2008 eight cars, just refer to my previous post. Just as they said the titanic was unsinkable.Lets wait five years and see, then we can talk about reliability. Any car can be "theoretically" reliable on paper and such but the real test is time.
Plus I don't think these now corparate ran Autobuisness want cars to last 200,000 miles. Because if the cars lasted that long, the people wont get rid of them meaning that they wont buy the newer ones and the CEO can't buy the new Rolls-Royce. But if you put it in their head that a car five years old is on it's last leg and can break at any moment, people will not risk it and buy a new car every five years or less.
And an even hilarious post is the cars the picked as future classics.I laughed until my side hurt. That new Toyota F"something something" offroader thingy was on there. And the good old Prius is on there. A pruis? A future classic? Or did they mean, the future of plastic? But the M3 is on there, the new one (Even though the E36 was more popular and personified what an M3 is better than the modern one even though the modern one will run circles around the E36.) The new C-Class made the list. It do have a nice design for real this time. Except I now idea what it means for the previous C-Class models. It may make the value of those things drop like a hot cake in the hands of a burn victim in the Siberian Winter. But that's with any car that under goes a new radical design. That 300C made it on there. (OK looking car, but I don't think it's classic material, but that's my opinion but it's a lot closer than that darn Pirus thing. But then again, the pinto and yugois considered a classic in some circles but at least they had character. Some alittle more explosive than others.) We'll see in the coming years. I think with technology becoming so invasive and so "baby-sitting" I think the definition of classic would be a vehicle without all them darn fangled electronics and a car that allows the driver to become one with the road. (No, I don't want a tracking device stuck to me and knowing all my positions. No, I don't need some outsourced customer service rep talking to me via satelite talking about locked doors. Give me a hanger. Or a car that automatically goes the speed limits and stops and turns without drivers input. Screw it, I'm grabbing a Merc. 6.9 before the tree hugging Pirus loving blood suckers pass some crazy law making it illegal to own a car without a tracking device.)
And if they are basing it on 2007-2008 eight cars, just refer to my previous post. Just as they said the titanic was unsinkable.Lets wait five years and see, then we can talk about reliability. Any car can be "theoretically" reliable on paper and such but the real test is time.
Plus I don't think these now corparate ran Autobuisness want cars to last 200,000 miles. Because if the cars lasted that long, the people wont get rid of them meaning that they wont buy the newer ones and the CEO can't buy the new Rolls-Royce. But if you put it in their head that a car five years old is on it's last leg and can break at any moment, people will not risk it and buy a new car every five years or less.
And an even hilarious post is the cars the picked as future classics.I laughed until my side hurt. That new Toyota F"something something" offroader thingy was on there. And the good old Prius is on there. A pruis? A future classic? Or did they mean, the future of plastic? But the M3 is on there, the new one (Even though the E36 was more popular and personified what an M3 is better than the modern one even though the modern one will run circles around the E36.) The new C-Class made the list. It do have a nice design for real this time. Except I now idea what it means for the previous C-Class models. It may make the value of those things drop like a hot cake in the hands of a burn victim in the Siberian Winter. But that's with any car that under goes a new radical design. That 300C made it on there. (OK looking car, but I don't think it's classic material, but that's my opinion but it's a lot closer than that darn Pirus thing. But then again, the pinto and yugois considered a classic in some circles but at least they had character. Some alittle more explosive than others.) We'll see in the coming years. I think with technology becoming so invasive and so "baby-sitting" I think the definition of classic would be a vehicle without all them darn fangled electronics and a car that allows the driver to become one with the road. (No, I don't want a tracking device stuck to me and knowing all my positions. No, I don't need some outsourced customer service rep talking to me via satelite talking about locked doors. Give me a hanger. Or a car that automatically goes the speed limits and stops and turns without drivers input. Screw it, I'm grabbing a Merc. 6.9 before the tree hugging Pirus loving blood suckers pass some crazy law making it illegal to own a car without a tracking device.)
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Frankly, I am surprised the E320 is not on the list? That is one of the most reliable mercedes cars built in today's market.
I am also surprised not to see the Toyota Camry (eww) and the Honda Accord. I can attest for the Camry's. They can go to 200K, but after that, good luck.
I am also surprised not to see the Toyota Camry (eww) and the Honda Accord. I can attest for the Camry's. They can go to 200K, but after that, good luck.
